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bazzmangrieshop (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
who is the picture of?
lenolas33 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@ Exastrologer. (2nd comment) my concern with your statement "biblical meditation is pondering ... memorizing God's word" is that those are all mental processes. The human mind is completely fallible, perfectly untrustworthy. The experience of Divinity is so far beyond human understanding that... it is pointless to say more. But the experience is the revelation. The experience of the Christ cannot contradict itself.
lenolas33 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@TheExastrologer - you presume to know what Jesus meant? With your 15 years of investigation, you know better than Fr. Keating? I don't get it. I don't understand how you can be so dismissive with such arrogance. I wonder of your experience with Buddhism and your relationship with the Living Christ instead of with the Bible. As first a Christian, then a Taoist and a New Ager and a Gnostic, and now as a Christian again, I must humbly agree with Jesus..."the Kingdom of God is within you."
TheExastrologer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Chunsol70 I don't go by the Desert Fathers as a standard. Biblical meditation is pondering, thinking about, understanding, and memorizing God's word. This is an area I've investigated and read on and written for over 15 yrs.
Chunsol70 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@TheExastrologer Like you, I have experience with Buddhist meditation and I can see how you would see how meditation has no place in the Christian tradition. But I would suggest that you read the works of Christian mystics works like the Desert Fathers of early Christianity, Augustine, St. John of the Cross and other medival Christian mystics, or the works of Thomas Merton, or a whole host of works written by countless priests from the Eastern Orthodox Church such as the philokalia.
scottspradlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I've read many of Fr. Keating's books. This is a treasure to have on Youtube. Thanks for posting.
scottspradlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I've read many of Fr. Keating's books. This is a treasure to have on Youtube. Thanks for posting.
TheExastrologer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
These techniques are not Christian. They are from Eastern meditation, mostly Buddhist. This is not what Jesus meant by the inner room - he simply meant go to a private place; he did not mean go into silence or to go within. Keating completely distorts the scripture. Having practiced Buddhist meditation before I was a Christian, I recognize the Buddhist influence here, which I don't think Keating would deny.
cheesemonkey1990 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
it is the most perfect prayer, but the highest form of prayer is contemplation, but you are right the Mass is the most perfect prayer. as far as grades of prayer goes: the Mass is verbal and a prayer of action.
sentryclothes (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
i thought the mass is the highest form of prayer. |
